I don't know what's being argued or debated in this thread. Translator is often hard to follow.

I'm still laughing at the pleather comment.

And really wish I could understand everything.

There is no universal rule. People are different, and individuals are different in different situations.

I have found that when I am in good shape-I can attract some women. When I have gotten big around the belly, I have attracted some women.

The moments when I was in between in shape and fat, I have not attracted women.

My conclusion: some women want attraction, and some women want security.

Like if She gives fat boy a sandwich he won't leave her.

were all the sum of our experiences which makes most of us embarrassingly insecure.

Whether we try to feel better about ourselves with shoes, dating below our value, or trying to obtain a 20 year old blonde,... were all hilariously (as we say in Texas) a "hot mess"

When you learn to accept that, it all gets easier.

There is no reason to defend yourself. We're all guilty.