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Olga

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From what country is your woman Erik? What is "Slavic woman" and "the mentality of Slavic women"? Because I don´t know, I´m from Belarus. I think all people are different.

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Lesia, 50 y.o.

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Elena can express her opinion on an equal footing with everyone, there is nothing absurd in this.
Moreover, we female audience knows why she has this opinion.

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Eric, 77 y.o.

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Hi Robert ,

I`m not sure how long you are on the site.Neither do I know , if you have met Slavic women.

I mean to say , if you have been to Slavic countries and have met /spoken with women / girls.

If you have personal experience with talking to Slavic women , you should have noticed the differences , between them and Western women /girls.

If you don`t have personal experience with conversations with Slavic women ,then there are some things that you will need to learn.

As you stated , you don`t understand the mentality of Slavic people.
Oh , yes , not understanding them , is one of the easiest and biggest mistakes , that foreigners make.

Having said that , I don`t know , of course , which women you have chosen to start a conversation with.

Take note of what Ekaterina and Yuliya have said.It has everything to do , with the mindset and mentality of Slavic people /women.

Since you have a learning curve to go through , I would suggest to be really , really very patient.

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If you have a chance , read all or almost all about their culture and their tradition.

One other important thing , that most foreign men seem to miss , is that you should /must read between the lines.

Since you are a complete stranger , to these women , don`t expect them to be fully open , or that they will believe everything that you tell them.

Even though you may have the best intentions.And you may be really honest and trust worthy.

But how would they know ?How can they tell ?How will you prove to them , that you are sincere , will it show in your letters ??

Yes , you as the man , the future leader of the family , you should , no , you must take the initiative.

Remember this.When the day will come , that she will introduce you , to her parents , they will observe you.

And they will check , if you are in the lead.If you can take the initiative.

It is not only about your conversation.It is also about your body language.
Can you be the leader.Can you be the head of the family.

They will observe , if you understand , what is expected from you.If you can /will support your future wife /family.

Sure , a relationship , also must have dialogue and conversation.But the man should know his role in this.
That is according to Slavic traditions.

I will give just an example.With a Slavic girlfriend , we bought some presents for one of her very good female friends.

Presents for the girlfriend and for her little children.
And , guess what.

She told me , that I must give the presents to her friend.
Why ?? Because I am the man.I am the leader.

On another occasion , we bought some presents for her sister and her brother - in - law.

And before we entered her sister`s house , she said , that I must give the presents to her sister and the sister`s husband.

You don`t have to find this strange , because that is how it is.
When you will have a relationship with a Slavic woman , she will tell you this also.

A Slavic woman , she knows her role in a relation and in a marriage.
Of course , there must always be mutual respect and trust.

Hopes this gives you an idea ...

You are not going to change this.

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Eric, 77 y.o.

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I agree with you 100%


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Chris

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Elena, I think you misunderstand Robert’s problem. He is talking specifically about women who can’t even hold a decent conversation in the first place. This topic has come up many times on this forum, and there are many women on this site to whom it applies. It’s not reasonable to expect a man to travel to a woman who puts very little effort into conversation. Why should he spend his time and money to find out if the woman who is boring to talk with online is boring to talk with in person? That’s absurd.

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Elena, 43 y.o.

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Продолжу свои мысли ... поэтому поговорил с красивой, доброй девушкой 2 недели или максимум месяц и готовь чемоданы с билетами для встречи !   а если не готов ко встречам, то нечего и бла бла разводить ..

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Elena, 43 y.o.

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Hi Robert . I m not interesting in men who wants only chatting or empty talks . I m interesting only in serious man who s ready to meet as soon as possible . To talk to the ppl you never met in real life is very hard for me . To fall in virtual love is a bad idea ..if i see a man wants only bla bla bla i stop our chatting . If a man talks about his plans , about his future gf and reasons why he wants to get a russian gf.. if he ask me about placies where i can meet him is what makes me keep talking to him .

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Svetlana, 43 y.o.

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Тоже почему первая мысль возникла: что просто не натолкнулись на общие увлекающие обоих темы
Ну и ещё градус открытости для общения, того или иного человека, может быть разный
А автору поста: не сдавайся -к цели приходит тот кто идёт к ней

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Hermann, 55 y.o.

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Do you give priority to writing to women
whose profiles are less than 20% completed, don't you ?

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Liudmila, 54 y.o.

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Напрасно не верите, вполне реалистичная история. Особенно для жителей небольших населенных пунктов. Это касается как женщин так и мужчин.


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Yuliya

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Привет)

Традиционный взгляд - как в танце ведет мужчина. Красивый танец требует чувствительности и понимания. Но с диктаторами и инфантилами это сделать не возможно.

В семьях большинство хотели бы иметь дома послушную, управляемую, уступчивую женщину, умеющую делать баланс семейных интересов.

Если возраст 20-30 они могут еще находится на содержании родителей и учиться, получение степени например. Мнение и одобрение родителей при выборе будущего мужа играет большую роль. Крепкая эмоциональная связь с дочери и матери, поиск мужа как папа - глава семьи. Традиции.

Удачи)

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Tatyana, 56 y.o.

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Неудобно спать на потолке..одеялр падает))думвйте о своем комфорте и не бойтесь задавать вопросы)на прошлой неделе написал немец и рассказал ужасную историю что жена его предала и он не имел секса 5!!!лет)))бедняга)))
Ну какая женщина еслм не дура ему поверит))


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Olga

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A lot of girls, but not all)) Keep searching

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Yanina, 55 y.o.

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Добрый день,
когда читаешь посты, комментарии к ним, понимаешь , что "общение" между людьми это целая наука.
Может быть, это сообщение немного выглядит просто,но лично для меня было много " открытий " на этом форуме.  И много полезного для общения .

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Svetlana, 53 y.o.

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The answer could be a language barrier, as simple as that. I suspect, the majority of your vis-a-vis have limited commnad of English. Couple it with the cultural tenet of expectation of men taking initiative, and in some instances with natural shyness, and there is a recipe for frustration.
The advice would be to narrow your search to the girls who speak English and have a wide array of interests, which should be reflected in their profiles.


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Chris

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Hi Robert, this is a mix of many things: cultural issues, differing personalities, and partially an issue with the pool of online daters. One of the peculiarities here is that yes, a woman who answers one sentence to a paragraph, doesn't ask questions, doesn't take interest in anything you say - she can be absolutely interested in you, and she'll be disappointed when you stop talking to her. Sometimes it's totally obvious within the first couple of messages that someone just isn't a talker and I agree, it's incredibly frustrating. I didn't waste my time on those people.

Occasionally it may be a matter of women being icy until you can make them open up, but as mentioned, men are expected to take the lead. Cultures clash in this sense, because I don't think it's reasonable for a woman to contribute very little to a conversation and expect it to last long. We assume that conversation should be pleasant and natural and not forced, whereas they see it differently. A reasonable person should associate a lack of initiative in conversation to a lack of success in finding someone. Here's the crux, though: the marriage rate is very high in FSU countries, and people get married early. Online dating has more of a stigma in the FSU countries than it has to the west, so there is a strong reliance on meeting people locally & physically. Local marriages favor people who have strong social ability to create those relationships, and people who are silent don't attract attention, and therefore are less likely to find their spouse.

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I've been on this site for a while and I can tell you that in my experience in general, the women here in our age bracket (presumably younger than us) who are putting effort into searching are largely only here because they couldn't find anyone locally. There are exceptions, mostly women who have already spent time in the western world, women who were trained to speak foreign languages, and those who have been betrayed and expect better. But generally - great, extroverted candidates who have no problem meeting people aren't the typical female registrant here. You may get lucky by talking to a woman who just joined up from curiosity, but this site is a revolving door in which a large portion of the profiles won't be here next week, and there are lots of profiles of women who have not been chosen in the several years they've been here. Target those new profiles and hope that you find someone suitable.


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Olga

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Его жена или герглфренд увидела переписку и заблокировала


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Svetlana

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Здравствуйте, а о чём разговор идёт неделю? Может действительно неинтересно кому-то, и начинает раздражать.


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Ekaterina

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Вот только на днях описывала патриархальное общество. Я думаю, что об этом не стоит забывать. В России, например, ещё сильны патриархальные установки. В России больше развита идея того, что мужчина должен проявлять инициативу в отношениях.
Считается, если мужчина мужчина не проявляет инициативу, значит, он не заинтересован в серьезных отношениях. Но! Инициатива должна быть деликатной, без напора.

"Напористость как качество личности – склонность надавить, навязать окружающим свои желания, оценки, не считаясь с их мнением; во что бы то ни стало, любой ценой добиться своей цели.
Как всё избыточное и чрезмерное, придающее кому-то или чему-то повышенную значимость, напористость является порочным качеством личности."

В общем, нужен баланс: проявлять инициативу, но прислушиваться к желаниям партнёра.

Оставлю цитату о свойствах патриархального общества.

"Жесткая иерархия патриархатного общества формирует множество барьеров для полноценной реализации личности. Одним из таких барьеров и является барьер социального пола (гендера), предписывающий человеку выполнять его "естественную" роль в качестве социального мужчины или социальной женщины, "закрывающий" или ограничивающий для мужчин и женщин ряд сфер жизнедеятельности - общественную сферу для женщин и семейную для мужчин.

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Что такое «гендер»


Социальный пол (гендер) - не тождественен биологическому полу, он конструируется социальной практикой. Возникает система норм поведения индивидуумов, предписывающая выполнение ими определенных социо-половых ролей, формируется устойчивая система понятий о том, что представляют из себя "женские" профессии, занятия, черты характера, а что - "мужские". Женщинам и мужчинам априорно навязываются определенные роли, отклонение от которых связано с общественным неприятием. Мальчикам нельзя играть в куклы и плакать, девочкам нельзя драться и катать машинки. Девушкам нельзя проявлять инициативу в любовных связях, юношам нельзя не служить в армии, нельзя быть слабым и мягким. Женщинам нельзя ставить на первое место карьеру, мужчинам нельзя не ставить на первое место карьеру и т.д."

Сделаю акцент на одном из выражений в этой цитате:
"Девушкам нельзя проявлять инициативу в любовных связях..."

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Lesia, 50 y.o.

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Всем поклонницам Швейцарии, свежие фоточки с фестиваля.. 🤩🌻🌻🌻
Заметьте уже есть добровольцы на эти столбы, но моего там точно нет, он фотограф 📸😂😅

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Olga

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Как говорил Иоанн Кронштадтский, цветы - остатки рая на земле!🌺🍀🌸 Фотогалерея в комментариях порадовала, спасибо!💚 Приятно лицезреть такую красоту, люблю цветы!🥰


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Ekaterina

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Laskamira, у вас случился переезд в Канаду.
Хочется думать, что переезд связан с замужеством.

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Savostyanova, 48 y.o.

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какая прекрасная история, тоже хочется быть такой в 92 года)))

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Lesia, 50 y.o.

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Какие яркие акценты у вас дамы. Такие сапожки и шарф, у Светы шляпа яркая. Да уж цветник из славянок куда эффектный чем гераньки 🤩👌 

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Tatyana, 56 y.o.

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А была же интрига...как не спалиться)или встречи с доктором не было?)

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Zhanna, 58 y.o.

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У меня еще вот какая фотка есть. Говорили что рядом публичный дом был.

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Olga

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А как их в Нидерландах отличают? Или всегда пишется латинское название?
Герань тоже очень красивая, особенно когда её много.

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Svetlana, 52 y.o.

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Наталья, когда отцветет обрежьте над листовыми узелками ( нюансы зависят от сорта), подкормите и на зимовку в дом


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Olga

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Жанна и Света, Швейцария конечно хороша, но вы её очень сильно украсили  Молодцы, девочки, шикарно выглядите.

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Svetlana, 52 y.o.

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Людмила, Штирлиц-Берн-профессор Плейшнер-герань на подоконнике. Хотелось с детства вот именно там увидеть, закрыла гештальт  





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